Phillies in the Soto Sweepstakes, should they be?

Well, the hot stove season is here again, and after a somewhat disappointing exit in the playoffs in 2024, but an awesome showing of taking the NL East pennant, the Phillies are putting their name out there as possibly interested in the services of Juan Soto. The Phils continue to put themselves in the limelight of teams like the NY Yankees, the LA Dodgers, and the NY Mets as the biggest spenders in the game. Who can argue with the success all of these teams had last year, the cream rose to the top with the highest-spending teams making a great showing in the playoffs. With of course the Dodgers winning it all, who didn’t think that would happen before the start of the season with all things being equal?

The Phillies have a couple of players on the team with very high contracts as we know, that are for many years and north of the $300 million range when they were signed. Of course, Harper and Turner will be part of the team for a long time still. Do the Phillies need a player like Juan Soto? That’s an interesting question.

With the current makeup of the team, I don’t think the Phils are a serious player in the Soto sweepstakes. Some moves would probably have to be made to sign a player like him. Recently, on a fellow Phillies podcast called ‘The Phillies Show’ with Todd Zolecki, Ruben Amaro, and Jim Salisbury, they reported that some recent talk about a Soto contract was rumored to be in the $660 million incredible range.

Let’s back up a little bit and look at some of the numbers that Soto has put up. First last year his WAR number was 7.9, but let’s see some stats from his career:

Standard Batting Table
Season Age Team WAR G AB R H HR RBI SO BA Awards
2018 19 WSN 3.0 116 414 77 121 22 70 99 .292 ROY-2
2019 20 WSN 5.0 150 542 110 153 34 110 132 .282 MVP-9
2020 21 WSN 2.4 47 154 39 54 13 37 28 .351 MVP-5,SS
2021 22 WSN 7.1 151 502 111 157 29 95 93 .313 AS,MVP-2,SS
2022 23 2TM 5.5 153 524 93 127 27 62 96 .242 AS,SS
2022 23 WSN 3.7 101 342 62 84 21 46 62 .246
2022 23 SDP 1.8 52 182 31 43 6 16 34 .236
2023 24 SDP 5.5 162 568 97 156 35 109 129 .275 AS,MVP-6,SS
2024 25 NYY 7.9 157 576 128 166 41 109 119 .288 AS,SS
7 Yr7 Yr7 Yr 36.4 936 3280 655 934 201 592 696 .285
162 162 162 6.3 162 568 113 162 35 102 120 .285
WSN WSN WSN 21.3 565 1954 399 569 119 358 414 .291
SDP SDP SDP 7.2 214 750 128 199 41 125 163 .265
NYY NYY NYY 7.9 157 576 128 166 41 109 119 .288
NL (NL (NL ( 28.5 779 2704 527 768 160 483 577 .284
AL (AL (AL ( 7.9 157 576 128 166 41 109 119 .288
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 11/20/2024.

In looking at Soto’s career so far, it’s easy to see that he nailed it in 2024, he had a career year, his best yet. It was also a contract year, so you know Soto’s agent emphasized this with his player, but Soto had to go out on the field and prove it as well. Looking back a couple of years, to me, Soto isn’t Superman, he isn’t in the Ohtani airspace, but somehow, now his ‘value’ is considered to be close to Ohtani in salary.

Let’s see the numbers that one of my favorite Phillies players over the past couple of years, Nick Castellanos in comparison with Soto. Not the eye-popping WAR of Soto last year, Nick had a WAR of .8 but what did he do on the field? 23 HR and 86 RBI is what Casty put up, and Soto? He had 41 HR and 109 RBI. Keep in mind Soto is a lot younger than Nick, Juan was in his 25-year-old season, while Nick was in his 32-year-old season.

Here are some of Nick Castellanos’s numbers over his career. And I’m not trying to say Castellanos should be compared to a player like Soto for any other reason but just look at the bottom line numbers they both put up in HR and RBI last year:

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Season Age Team WAR G AB R H 2B HR RBI BA Awards
2013 21 DET -0.2 11 18 1 5 0 0 0 .278
2014 22 DET -0.1 148 533 50 138 31 11 66 .259 ROY-8
2015 23 DET 1.3 154 549 42 140 33 15 73 .255
2016 24 DET 2.3 110 411 54 117 25 18 58 .285
2017 25 DET 0.1 157 614 73 167 36 26 101 .272
2018 26 DET 2.8 157 620 88 185 46 23 89 .298
2019 27 2TM 2.8 151 615 100 178 58 27 73 .289
2019 27 DET 1.0 100 403 57 110 37 11 37 .273
2019 27 CHC 1.8 51 212 43 68 21 16 36 .321
2020 28 CIN 0.0 60 218 37 49 11 14 34 .225
2021 29 CIN 3.4 138 531 95 164 38 34 100 .309 AS,MVP-12,SS
2022 30 PHI 0.1 136 524 56 138 27 13 62 .263
2023 31 PHI 1.5 157 626 79 170 37 29 106 .272 AS,MVP-23
2024 32 PHI 0.8 162 606 80 154 30 23 86 .254
12 Y12 Y12 Y 14.9 1541 5865 755 1605 372 233 848 .274
162 162 162 1.6 162 617 79 169 39 24 89 .274
DET DET DET 7.3 837 3148 365 862 208 104 424 .274
PHI PHI PHI 2.4 455 1756 215 462 94 65 254 .263
CIN CIN CIN 3.4 198 749 132 213 49 48 134 .284
CHC CHC CHC 1.8 51 212 43 68 21 16 36 .321
AL (AL (AL ( 7.3 837 3148 365 862 208 104 424 .274
NL (NL (NL ( 7.6 704 2717 390 743 164 129 424 .273
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 11/20/2024.

We’ll see what happens in the Soto sweepstakes, but without an extensive amount of changes to this current Phillies roster to accommodate such a move, plus given the fact that the Phillies moves over the past year have been somewhat conservative after adding the likes of Trea Turner type contract plus extending Nola and Wheeler (and rightly so), the addition of Soto would make no sense for the Phillies when they could have so much more great additions to this team and with spending a fraction of what a Soto contract would be.

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